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MD
MD
2/20/2013 2:24:30 PM
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Re: Oscilloscope record
> the stepwise rising of current is interesting. 

That's just me, manually dropping the resistance!

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MD
MD
2/20/2013 2:23:49 PM
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Re: Oscilloscope record
>yet slope of energy released seems to remain constant

It does flatten out right at the end – might help to look at the full-size image.

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EEBASK
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2/20/2013 12:26:06 PM
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Oscilloscope record
 

It is interesting, that close to full discharge of battery (8-th/9-th horizontal division) both battery voltage and current drop simultaneously, yet slope of energy released seems to remain constant. Also the stepwise rising of current is interesting. 

 

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MD
MD
2/19/2013 2:11:36 PM
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Re: Alkaline batt voltage
But NiZn do the same thing – I think a fresh one could be at 1.7V+ for a short while.

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cgervasi
cgervasi
2/19/2013 2:03:06 PM
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Alkaline batt voltage
"1.6V is too high, and your device is wrecked (unlikely, if it can handle 1.5V)"


The wikipedia page for alkaline cells says they can go up to 1.65V.  I just added a citation needed tag.

I know I've seen new ones measure 1.54V, so even with the tolerances on my meter I know they can go a little above 1.5V.

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MD
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2/19/2013 1:37:15 PM
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Re: Charge cycles
I haven't researched enough to know if the charge cycles are comparable to NiMH. But if you can benefit from the higher voltage, I don't think that's too big a concern (unless the number is riduculously low).

I guess there are three possibilities:

1.6V is too high, and your device is wrecked (unlikely, if it can handle 1.5V)

The device can handle a range of voltages – 1.6V holds no real advantage, except, as in my camera case, where it gets around a touchy battery sense circuit.

The device's operation is dependent on voltage (likely 1.5V nominal), in which case 1.6V may or may not be preferable. 1.6V will be better than 1.2V in most cases where you'd prefer to use a rechargeable. Slightly buzzier electric toothbrush for instance ;-)

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cgervasi
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2/19/2013 1:26:43 PM
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Charge cycles
Can NiZn handle as many charge cycles as NiMH?

If it has about the same power density (slightly lower charge capacity and slightly higher voltage), it seems like a good thing since its voltage is closer to an alkaline, and as you say many devices are looking for an alkaline's voltage.

It seems like it would be easier for mfrs to design for a wider input voltage tolerance.  But if they don't, what's the downside to using NiZn?

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thenmugilan
thenmugilan
2/17/2013 5:37:16 AM
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Re: Capacity
>Never charge a battery if weak battery signal is not on.

Your point is valid and it will improve the battery life for sure.  However making a call with a weak/low battery signal can produce much more radiation that eventually causes problem for human live.

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Hijab
Hijab
2/16/2013 1:13:55 AM
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Re: Tried These Didn't Like Em

I believe Alkaline are replaced by Nickelcadmium or Lithium ones, which one is it I am not sure. But Alkaline ones are obsolete I guess


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Hijab
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2/16/2013 12:08:22 AM
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Re: Capacity
 

Your post just reminded me that I have not used my DSLR for weeks and the battery must be dying. Speaking of battery not used for some time, I read somewhere and it really helped and increased my mobile phone battery life.

"1)Never charge a battery if weak battery signal is not on and never take it off from a charger till it is not fully charged 2) never keep your batteries drained for too long, even if not in use, keep them charged"

Very simple rule and the mobile battery which used to last just a day, has started going well beyond a day time. I can easily say following this thumb rule, the battery life has increased to some 20-25%.

 

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