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Poll: I'll Take It if You Throw in the FFT

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Wale Bakare
Wale Bakare
5/12/2012 4:12:43 PM
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Re: Make It Open-Source! -- scopehandler
But there are other times when we'd like to look at our scope data in ways that don't need to be certifiable.

I do think, making scope software source through open platform would raise questions - money. And also, if they get vetted or certified that would probably increase quality assurance in terms of design properties for their intending purposes. 


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afritgo
afritgo
5/12/2012 2:42:04 PM
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Re: Just the Basic
@MD. I have used the "My Scope' feature. It is a nice function. Yet, that does not take away the complexity when compared with Agilent. I do not think the problem is largely from Tek, it is what to expect when you build on top of Windows. Notice that the FFT function, though a great feature when observing signals live, cannot be compared when you acquire data and process it in Matlab. I have that function but I still use Matlab to get my FFT especially when I need to publish data. Not to say that Tek is not a great product - they have done great works. They just have to make things less complex.

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afritgo
afritgo
5/12/2012 2:33:34 PM
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Re: Just the Basic
@Clairvoyant You answerred the question correctly.  I have used both Tek and Agilent scopes and continue to use them. But whenever I upgrade, I have noticed that Agilent is designed to be downward compatible. In other words, what you know in ver 1 is useful for ver 2. But for Tek, I see them throwing complexity that most times, I spend time trying to understand the system than using it to test my chip. The bundling of Windows in some of Tek's latest scopes is not helpful.


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MD
MD
5/11/2012 3:49:28 PM
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Re: Just the Basic
I haven't used an Agi scope in ages, so it's good hearing from those who do. 

I know some Tek scopes have a "My Scope" feature that lets you customize menus, but I haven't actually tried it myself. My Tek salesperson tells me it's a great feature, and I have to believe him, as he was right about all their scopes now having FFT standard!!!!  Yes, you heard it here first ;-) 

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Clairvoyant
Clairvoyant
5/11/2012 2:17:19 PM
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Re: Just the Basic
I find that the UI on an Agilent scope is simpler and easier to use. I find on the Tek scopes you sometimes need to 'dig' down into the menus for certain things. It's not too much of a problem if you are using the same scope all the time. However, if you are switching back and forth between Agilent and Tektronix scopes because of availability, I find it can be confusing on where exactly certain settings are. Do you other users here mainly stick to one brand of scope, or need to switch between them like I do?

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MD
MD
5/11/2012 12:03:29 PM
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Re: Just the Basic
> Agilent just won the best scope maker of the year. Most will tell you that they make simplier scopes than Tek.

How would you say Agi is simpler than Tek? Is there less functionality, or is the UI easier to use?

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afritgo
afritgo
5/11/2012 7:23:47 AM
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Re: Just the Basic
You are right on the benefits of "integration". That is the driver of the whole industry as we see in systems and circuits. Nevertheless, we need to have optimality here to ensure users can maintain an element of usability. Cost is a big factor and you noted space with many universities, especially, running out of lab space. So, they will welcome testing systems that are packed with many funtions. Yet, manufacturers must balance these conflicting factors. Agilent just won the best scope maker of the year. Most will tell you that they make simplier scopes than Tek.

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Myscope
Myscope
5/11/2012 3:32:53 AM
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Re: Just the Basic
MD, I don't think anything wrong with it. Most of the companies have either their own unit or outsourced contractors from China. Even Apple has their outsourced partner from China 'Foxconn' and another Chinese company Huawei is in collaboration with many MNC's in telecom sector. China can make both good quality and cheap products, if big brands are specifying for quality parameters, then they will adhere to that. So if companies needs good quality product they have to insist for tat with their Chinese counterparts, they will do it.

As of now the problem is, most of the companies needs their works to be get it done in China at a lower cost, then the quality gets compromised. Instead of that if MNC's are insisting for quality products, we can have superior quality products from Chinese companies, but profits may be marginal.

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Myscope
Myscope
5/11/2012 3:10:47 AM
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Re: Just the Basic
Afritgo, definitely dedicated scopes are simpler to understand and easier to use. But when compare the costs for different testing devices; integrated devices are more preferable in terms of cost and functionality. A simple lab can be set up with 4-6 such multi-functionality devices with in the constrains of space requirements.

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MD
MD
5/9/2012 9:02:40 AM
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Re: Make It Open-Source! -- scopehandler
They might lose a bit of money once people have made their modules freely available to the rest of us :-)

First thing I'd do: Allow for simultaneous hi-res and averaging acquisition!

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