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Origins of Scopes: Evolution of a Masterpiece

Janine Sullivan Love
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MD
MD
3/21/2012 10:01:17 PM
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Re: My oldest cro that I have used
I've seen the occasional Silicon Chip issue. Good stuff.

You remind me - I have a pair of WWII walkie-talkies in excellent condition (Galvin, aka Motorola). They'd make a great restoration project.

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Peter
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3/21/2012 9:48:58 PM
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Re: My oldest cro that I have used
Yes Radio Tv and Hobbies was the predicessor of Electronics Australia. Unfortunatly, EA is no more, but the spirit carries on with Silicon Chip magazine.

http://www.siliconchip.com.au/

I am a ham radio operator and still use equipment designed and built during WW2. It is just as good as anything available now, even if the gear does'nt have all the bells and whistles of modern stuff

My AR7 reciever sports an external digital diplay, and a solid state 12volt/240 volt power supply, but it still uses valves-8 of them.

 

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Peter
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3/21/2012 9:48:55 PM
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Re: My oldest cro that I have used
Yes Radio Tv and Hobbies was the predicessor of Electronics Australia. Unfortunatly, EA is no more, but the spirit carries on with Silicon Chip magazine.

http://www.siliconchip.com.au/

I am a ham radio operator and still use equipment designed and built during WW2. It is just as good as anything available now, even if the gear does'nt have all the bells and whistles of modern stuff

My AR7 reciever sports an external digital diplay, and a solid state 12volt/240 volt power supply, but it still uses valves-8 of them.

 

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MD
MD
3/21/2012 7:40:25 PM
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Re: My oldest cro tha I have used
Those are some great memories and stories. Yeah, do you want warmth, or specs? :-)

Hate it when parts develop a smoke leak...

Was Radio TV & Hobbies an electronics magazine? I haven't heard of it, but it must have been pretty advanced to be publishing 10MHz scope designs in the 60s!

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Peter
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3/21/2012 5:09:30 PM
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My oldest cro tha I have used
I have owned several cros. The 1st one was an old american made Dumont, all valve (around 30 odd i remember), and it came complete with an enormous 240v to 110 v transformer. Of course, all the calibrations on the front panel were for american 60 hz, not our 50 hz, but that didnt matter to a 15 year old hobbyst.

I owned that cro for over 30 years and it didnt miss a beat, in fact when I donated it to a museum it still worked, althugh the timebase switches were getting a bit rough electrically, and the front stainless steel panel was showing signs of scuffing and wear around the controls. I remenber being amazed (at 15 years old) at being able to produce lissujus figures on the 5 inch scren.

I then bough a smaller audio only cro made by techtronics in the 1950's. It worked well until the power transformer lost all its smoke.

I also owned a small (3 inch) philips service scope, once again all valve. It had a transformer fault, but a small filamanet transformer fixed that.

My current scope is a 1960's design (radio tv and Hobbies), home made valve type, with a fq response to 10 mhz,and calibrated timebases. Still woks as good as the day it was made.

We have a Rigol pc type scope here at work, but it doesnt have the hands on feel of my old one. In fact it seems cold and dead, not withstanding it has markedly better specs.

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womai
womai
2/14/2012 4:33:05 PM
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Re: Old+New
>>We cannot connect a wire to optical IC in case of traditional 'Scopes.


Tektronix TDS/CSA8200 scopes have optical plugins as an option (have been available for years). Feed in the optical signal (with an optical fiber), of course internally it gets converted into an electrical signal. I'm sure Agilent and Lecroy have similar options for their high-end sampling scopes.

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Anatoliy Besplemennov
Anatoliy Besplemennov
2/14/2012 10:43:35 AM
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Projectors were mensioned for instance, for better understanding.

Oscilloscope I think means "seeing the oscillations". Not needed to be a rectangular box with electronics inside and CRT or LCD screen.

They began to work with GHerz frequiensies after years of work were passed.

Lasers at present time transmit GHertz and more.

There're pico- and femtosecond devices as well.

We cannot connect a wire to optical IC in case of traditional 'Scopes.

Making such laser oscilloscope would be good marketing move - the firm will be the first!

Now it's fantastic but who knows...

 

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womai
womai
2/14/2012 3:00:14 AM
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That would give you the capability of an analog scope with the CRT replaced by laser beams. I doubt you'd get very high sweep rates (projectors are for video displays, so MHz range, not GHz). Would make for a cool demo though!

 

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Anatoliy Besplemennov
Anatoliy Besplemennov
2/13/2012 1:33:09 PM
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Old+New
What do you think about creating the Laser Scope? We can take pluses of old technologies combining with new's ones. For instance we can plot channels inputs with green and red beams and the grid with blue one.

There're laser picoprojectors on the market now, MEMs and solid-state devices for beam control, etc.

We can avoid expensive high-speed ADCs, signal discretization due the fact that lines will be continuous and smooth.

 If think further we can add optical computing achievements.

 

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Myscope
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2/8/2012 10:54:27 PM
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Scope appearance
I think still most of us have a nostalgic feels with our old scopes, especially to the first one we had used in colleges or labs. For the last 20 years with in the scope lots of changes had happened in terms of functionality and features, but the outer appearance is almost same.

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